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You are listening to "The Podcast 
Factory Org".

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Welcome to a new episode of 
hrmeetup.©,

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your podcast on human resources and 
passions at work.

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Around the microphone today in my 
podcast studio at transforma bxl,

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I have: Estelle Mentior, 
hello Estelle!

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Hello everyone.

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Lauriane Verspecht.

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Hello.

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And Raphaël?

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Rozenberg (Michel Godart: 
Rozenberg). Hello everyone.

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As I was saying, 
this is an hrmeetup.© podcast, but

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under the Humana section. And 
speaking of Humana, that means

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Estelle and Lauriane.

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I'll hand the floor over to 
Lauriane to remind us

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exactly what Humana is.

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So, Humana is a community of people 
passionate about HR topics in

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companies, and about the human 
element in general within

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businesses, aimed at HR 
professionals,

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but not only them. It can be 
managers and,

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in fact, anyone interested in 
discussing these topics.

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We meet every two months for a free 
event at transforma bxl,

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and we talk about a specific 
topic—a topic that changes every

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time. We have a speaker who leads 
the session and generally guides us

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through various activities, 
whether it's an experience,

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breakout sessions, 
workshops, etc.,

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to really delve into that topic.

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Then after the session, 
we can get together again to keep

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the momentum going and extend the 
experience over a nice meal,

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for those who wish to.

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And there are three boxes we try to 
tick for these sessions.

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The first, and by no means least, 
is fun—it's a Thursday evening,

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we all lead fast-paced lives, 
and the idea is to have a good time

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together. The second box is 
learning:

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we want it to be practical, 
so everyone can go home in the

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evening with something they want to 
implement directly in their company

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the next day. And the third box to 
tick is everything related to

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networking, meeting people, 
chatting with interesting folks,

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and why not forging partnerships 
and even friendships going forward.

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And why is the event possible, 
Estelle? Because we also have great

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sponsors, we can name them!

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Absolutely. This year, 
we are sponsored by Adaequatio

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Services, who are treating us to 
drinks.

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Adaequatio is a recruitment company 
that also does headhunting.

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Whose founder, Audrey Remacle, 
is one of the members who attend

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our events and whom you might run 
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You could even say she's a regular.

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Exactly. So, in addition to being 
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informative, and collaborative, 
the event is free,

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except for the meal portion since 
if you stay to eat you pay for your

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meal (Lauriane Verspecht: 
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And we are going to introduce our 
guest with a question: from your

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teenage dream to today, 
Raphaël, what happened? Are you

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aligned with your dream?

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Okay, so my teenage dream, 
at least when you asked the

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question, what came to mind was 
being a rock star (Michel Godart:

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Ah ah). I have an old memory of 
seeing myself on stage at Forest

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National, well, I don't know

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if it was my ego, but.

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It's almost done, 
you've got a microphone in front of

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you right now.

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There you go, there you go. And 
right now I (Michel Godart: Feel

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like singing), I feel an energy, 
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front of the mic, yes, absolutely.

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And on top of that you're 
recording, this is it, you'll

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be on all streaming platforms.

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Wow (Lauriane Verspecht: 
That's great), wonderful! There's a

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part of me that is very joyful.

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All jokes aside, 
did that lead you to a specific

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career choice, a specific field of 
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I'm not going to dive into my 
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which hasn't been a straight line, 
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I shifted my focus toward people.

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And for 25 years, 
27 now, I've been supporting

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development, micro and macro 
transitions in companies.

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And for five years now, 
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nature, which is why I think I'm 
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Right, with a wonderful encounter, 
I think, starting with Estelle?

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Absolutely. Raphaël and I met 
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who is also passionate about 
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she introduced me to Raphaël and 
what Raphaël could offer in terms

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of coaching, especially in 
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That's what I'd like you to tell us 
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how did you discover outdoor 
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and what has it brought to your 
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even on a personal level?

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OK. Phew! Two questions.

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So, how did I discover it?

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First, it comes from, 
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coaching for a long time and 
thinking that what we do in

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seminars, in rooms like at 
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which are wonderful rooms, 
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and I always thought it would be 
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executives, and teams outside.

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Well, it didn't happen right away, 
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I felt the calling that it was now 
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And since I'm impulsive, 
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going, I looked into it and 
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existed in English-speaking 
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already, quote-unquote, 
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corporate world. And so for five 
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well, I started offering that, 
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And I take various individuals, 
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and teams, managers, 
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organizations, often into the 
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forest, so there it is.

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To work on topics, 
on questions that are important to

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them. So, to answer your second 
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what has it brought me?

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I wrote about it in my book, 
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as a seasoned coach—like with the 
rules of the road where you think

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you've mastered everything—it 
brought me back to something,

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which is streamlining my coaching 
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Simpler, more presence, 
fewer questions,

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fewer tools. And I find it more 
powerful today.

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OK, would you like to share an 
experience you had during an

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outdoor coaching session that 
particularly left a mark on you?

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Yes, there are several that stand 
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me, beyond a single experience, 
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person—through a practice that is 
quite familiar in coaching—has this

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realization that isn't just 
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but truly 'embodied' as they say in 
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I never quite know how to translate 
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but embodied throughout the whole 
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and it's extremely powerful; 
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moment where perspectives open up.

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And that, seeing the eyes of the 
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exchange that unfolds, 
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Well, I'm a bit of a sensitive 
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so there you go, maybe I get moved

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more quickly than others.

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Could you explain to us a bit more 
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Because, well, people might think, 
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forest bathing, you go into the 
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you hug trees"—it can quickly drift 
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perhaps a bit esoteric or a bit out 
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thinking, "What is this?

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It's not for me." Yet I don't have 
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at all that this is what you offer.

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because for me it's very important 
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world with the seriousness behind 
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And precisely, there's no need for 
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is esoteric—or perceived as 
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meaningful work. Nevertheless, 
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living space, being in motion, 
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something. It's documented; 
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effects on mental or emotional 
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and even more so when we walk in 
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so that's already significant.

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This enables interactions quite 
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essence of what matters faster, 
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but also "connecting," so to speak,

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perhaps to the body, 
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to emotions. That is an important 
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So there, and when you take it a 
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there can be kinds of interactions 
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along with the coach being there, 
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creates an opening, 
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up until now whatever their 
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Raphaël, how do you think outdoor 
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coaching? And ultimately, 
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A first element is that it allows 
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So, literally stepping out of the 
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getting out of a room, 
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out of a coach's practice—that's 
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and as you'll experience, 
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differentiating factors to the 
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coachee, whether individually or in 
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Second, stepping out of the box of 
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mainly in our heads, 
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analysis, the rational, 
KPIs, and I could go on with a

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long list. And here, 
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at all—it's welcome—but to connect 
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to intuition. There are plenty of 
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choices, to gain perspective, 
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where our reflection allows for 
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And outdoor coaching brings that 
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We talk about individual coaching, 
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Does the method differ 
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Well, I have a process that's 
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but nature is alive—we were talking 
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of the session, and that's 
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so there are different specific 
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the team, and what I sense in the 
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I might pull different levers.

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It's the same process, but it's 
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Do you see any limitations—things 
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The first thing that came to mind 
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the weather conditions which, 
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will be a hindrance, 
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it's pointless. The second thing is 
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mention—we impose, 
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so I don't only do coaching in 
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but at a certain point I suggest it 
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is open to it. So the limitation 
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are probably others, but those are 
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Since we're talking about 
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little bit, I'm going to play 
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(Raphaël Rozenberg: 
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straight-forward, very logical 
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Sir, in Brussels, 
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everywhere. In fact, 
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asked ourselves for the event, 
Estelle and Lauriane: what do we do

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when we don't have a patch of 
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the project fall through?

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Not at all. In Brussels, 
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municipality, so nature is rarely 
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Now then, what do we mean by 
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A park is certainly already nature.

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We're largely surrounded by the 
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so nothing is really far, 
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But I have colleagues who work, 
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that can work, it all depends on 
how far you want to go.

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There you go, I even—well, 
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but some people practice with 
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quote-unquote, there you have it.

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Lauriane, we asked ourselves that 
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(Lauriane Verspecht: 
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"What do we do? At Transforma there 
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us, but it's not really a proper 
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Absolutely, absolutely. Indeed, 
we asked ourselves that question

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and we're still going to hold this 
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to show you that it's already 
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Brussels without specifically 
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with a plan B if needed, 
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participants who register to come 
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With an umbrella (Raphaël 
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little yellow raincoat, 
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you'll need to check the weather a 
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Raphaël, would you like to tell us 
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offering during this session and 
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I'll tell you more. We're going to 
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And then, I believe I heard that 
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experience, it's practical, 
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experience. We'll leave the room 
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nature, and perhaps further, 
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perhaps see how nature or an 
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to you in detail—can feed your 
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So, ahhh, suspense, 
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I believe so, we'll talk about it 
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October 8, right?

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That's exactly right. It will be on 
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at transforma. We will therefore 
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Rozenberg, who will talk to us 
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outdoor coaching can allow us to 
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It starts at 6:30 p.m., 
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little raincoat, 
your nice boots, and your umbrella,

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if you have one available.

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And registration is also required, 
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Yes. Via Eventbrite, 
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The link will be available on our 
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So thank you to all three of you, 
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each other: what is the date?

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October 8th.

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At transforma. It's free, 
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Eventbrite, and thank you for 
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